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Jimbuna 11-20-23 07:49 AM

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Moonlight 11-20-23 07:59 AM

Chancellor Jeremy Hunt shelves plans to slash inheritance tax in his Autumn Statement amid fears of a Red Wall backlash if the 'death tax' is cut for the wealthy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-wealthy.html

Whoever came up with this idea in the first place should be hung, drawn and quartered.
I'm surprised they didn't try to justify this by using Liz Truss and her "Trickle Down Economics" idea that they tried to con us with, that has since been debunked all over the world as a load of bollocks.

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Trickle down-economics in the UK
Trickle down-economics came to the forefront of UK politics when Liz Truss's Government announced its mini-budget on Friday 23 September. The plans included that:

The cap on bankers’ bonuses would be abolished
The rise in corporation tax and national insurance would be reversed
Stamp duty would be cut
The top income tax rate would be scrapped
The decisions were made to put millions into the pockets of the wealthiest to spur economic growth. Liz Truss said ‘Lower taxes lead to economic growth, there’s no doubt in my mind.’

But markets didn’t agree with her.

Whenever a government does not make enough money through tax to cover its spending, the money has to come from national debt. The mini-budget is estimated to reduce revenue by £45 billion but has no intention to cut spending.

Typically, increases in government borrowing lead to greater returns on bonds because the dramatic increase in supply (without an increase in demand) causes the securities to fall in value. The bond yields have to increase to remain competitive and bring in investors.

After the mini-budget, 2-year UK government bonds hit the highest level since the 2008 crisis. This should in theory strengthen the pound as foreign investors rush to invest in domestic assets – but this didn’t happen.

Within a matter of days, £500 billion was wiped off UK markets. There was a run on sterling that caused it to fall to multi-decade lows against the dollar, and the FTSE tumbled as British assets were sold off.

In an unprecedented move toward a non-emerging market, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) made a statement criticising the decision. The supranational body urged the government to reconsider the tax cuts that it said would stoke inequality within the country.

Jimbuna 11-20-23 08:34 AM

A reasonable increase in the personal allowance and retention of the triple lock will suit me fine thank you.

Jimbuna 11-20-23 02:29 PM

Tories move to clamp down on low paid migrants with immigration stats due to hit 500,000

It's reported foreign workers will now need a salary of more than £30,000 to come to Britain, up from the current £26,200 required by workers outside "shortage occupations".

However, even the new figure is well below the median UK wage of £33,000.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...5d6bee09&ei=19

Jimbuna 11-21-23 05:39 AM

Best make it quick then and don't forget to close the door behind you.

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Humza Yousaf warned SNP's 'absurd' bid to rejoin EU will make Scotland 'a basket case'

Humza Yousaf's SNP risks turning Scotland into an "utter basket case of a failed state" with his party's plan to take an independent Scotland back into the European Union, Reform UK deputy leader Ben Habib has warned.

Mr Habib was commenting after the publication of the SNP's seventh paper on independence, entitled: "An independent Scotland in the EU."

The 78-page document says the process of re-joining the bloc would be "closely aligned" with the process of establishing a Scottish pound, something discussed in a previous paper.

The document also described plans for checks on goods which are traded across the border between an independent Scotland and England, envisaging what it calls a "single trade window" online.
However, former Brexit Party MEP Mr Habib was far from convinced.

He told Express.co.uk: "The fact is, Scotland would not be independent if it joins the EU.

"It would have given up its ancient successful union with the rest of Great Britain to join a failing one with the EU."

It was obvious that there could be no route for Scotland rejoining without "standing on its own two legs" for at a number of years, Mr Habib pointed out.

He explained: "The EU will insist on being able to assess Scotland as a genuinely independent country, test its economic capability and indeed its general ability to govern itself.

"The notion that it could hop and skip its way into the EU is absurd."

It was this intermediate period of genuine independence which exposed Mr Humza's ambitions as unworkable, Mr Habib said.

He continued: "Right now, it is English generosity that props up Scotland.

"What will he do when that ends? Launch a new currency? Print his own monopoly money with no meaningful economy to back it up?

"All the complaints made by him about the post-Brexit British economy will pale by comparison to the utter basket case of a failed state he would create.

"The new Scottish currency would tank; Scotland would be bust before you could say Robert is your father's brother."

Referencing Hilaire Belloc's 1907 poem Jim, in which the title character is famously eaten by a lion during a trip to the zoo, Mr Habib added: "No Mr Humza, you will not be able to deliver. My advice to you is:

"...Always keep a-hold of Nurse, for fear of finding something worse!"

Unveiling the paper last week, Constitution Secretary Angus Robertson said: "A Yes vote in a referendum on that question in Scotland would begin the process of our negotiations with the UK and then, in time, with the EU.

"And, we would imagine that, that would take in the same sort of order as other countries that have joined, that's anything between two years and five years.

"But we would be starting from a very different position.

"We're literally the only part of the European Union that's been taken out against our will and we're the only part of the formerly part of the European Union that is seeking to rejoin."

Mr Robertson subsequently told Express.co.uk:

External Affairs Secretary Angus Robertson said: "Independence would give Scotland direct representation in European decision-making for the very first time, providing opportunities for our economy to grow inside a market which is seven times the size of the UK and escape the damage of the UK's hard Brexit, which is hitting Scotland's economy and communities hard."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...3cd5b53a&ei=39

MGR1 11-21-23 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2892790)
Best make it quick then and don't forget to close the door behind you.

This highlights an omnipresent problem: policy platforms apart, Reform's "Too English" to succeed in Scotland, the SNP are "Too Scottish" for the rest of the UK.

Until and unless the Western Central Belt stop voting for them en masse (which is the only way to get rid of them, demographics and political weighting being as they are), the SNP are going to be a feature of the British political landscape for the forseeable future. There isn't much the rest of Scotland can do about it. Not enough people, simple as.

Mike.

Jimbuna 11-22-23 07:11 AM

Looking forward to watching Hunts autumn statement on tv where no doubt he will attempt to bribe the public into voting Tory next year.

Personally, I'm undecided because I feel that currently Labour are no better but after thirteen years of Tory rule perhaps they deserve a chance.

More from me after the details are made public.

Moonlight 11-22-23 08:16 AM

French police chief in charge of stopping illegal migrant Channel crossings to Britain has been 'absent' most of the past 14 years playing golf and swimming instead, damning internal report claims

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rt-claims.html

I wondered why thousands of Migrants have been able to cross the channel so easily, now we know why.

Jimbuna 11-22-23 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2892924)
Looking forward to watching Hunts autumn statement on tv where no doubt he will attempt to bribe the public into voting Tory next year.

Personally, I'm undecided because I feel that currently Labour are no better but after thirteen years of Tory rule perhaps they deserve a chance.

More from me after the details are made public.

Just the one positive for me as far as I'm concerned...

'The state pension will increase by 8.5% from April 2024 to £221.20 a week, as the government honours the triple lock'

So no Tory votes from my household and if Labour offer nothing more next year I'll have to give serious consideration to voting Lib Dem.

Moonlight 11-22-23 02:02 PM

^Jesus Christ!, I'd book yourself an appointment with a psychiatrist first old boy, don't tell them that you're thinking of voting LibDem until the 4th or 5th session, you'll need to break the ice first as that kind of confession could send them over the edge. :haha:

Jimbuna 11-23-23 06:24 AM

To top it all off and despite Rishi's promise to tackle illegal immigrants, the 2022 figure of 606,000 has now risen to 672,000

Jimbuna 11-23-23 07:14 AM

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Moonlight 11-23-23 08:04 AM

More begging letters, it's never ending with the Labour Party.

Tories hit the panic button after net migration is upgraded by the equivalent of the population of Cambridge to ANOTHER new record of 745,000 a year - driven by arrivals from outside the EU looking for work

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...shi-Sunak.html

HMS Great Britain is heading full throttle through the ice floes, very soon we're going to hit one of them head on, "Well Done" to all of our Political Parties who have wanted this to happen, the Takeover will be complete in less than 20 years.

All Hail our new master, Mohammed "**** off you White Currants" Mohammed. :O:

Jimbuna 11-23-23 01:18 PM

This article explains adequately my main grievance with the current government.

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Millions of pensioners paying more income tax now than when Tories took power
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...39552656&ei=15

Moonlight 11-23-23 02:39 PM

This is my main grievance with the Tories, they've turned the UK into a stinking rubbish tip where the rats of the earth infest our streets.

'When do we say: enough is enough?' Ex-Home Secretary Suella Braverman demands major new clampdown on legal immigration to ease pressure on housing and the NHS as net arrival numbers are revised UP to new record of 745,000 in a year
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...migration.html

Jimbuna 11-24-23 07:21 AM

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Immigration Minister Robert Jenrick has drawn up a set of proposals to attempt to cut immigration to the UK.

The ideas, which he has shared with No 10, are not yet government policy, but are being discussed internally.

Among the suggestions are a required minimum annual salary of £35,000 in order to receive a work visa.

It comes after official figures put last year's net migration figure higher than previously thought - at a record 745,000 people.

This has led to calls for more action to bring down migration from Tory MPs.

Rishi Sunak said "levels of immigration are too high" and need to come down "to sustainable levels".

The prime minister added that the government's plans to clamp down on dependents of students arriving in the UK is "the single toughest measure that anyone has taken to bring down the levels of legal migration in a very long time".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67515674
£35,000 and fewer dependants sounds all well and good but what about the illegals?

Moonlight 11-24-23 07:35 AM

I remember a minimum annual salary being bandied about around Priti Patels' Home Secretaries time, I think the Tories finally settled on a salary of £0 pounds and a benefit handout of £25,000 or more, I always said that the Tories would **** everything up as usual and I was right. :o

Jimbuna 11-24-23 08:15 AM

Meanwhile, north of the border....

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Former first minister Alex Salmond has launched legal action against the Scottish Government over its botched investigation of harassment complaints against him.

The Court of Session confirmed to the PA news agency on Friday the case, Alex Salmond v Scottish ministers, had been called.

The Herald reported the now-Alba Party leader has alleged “misfeasance” by civil servants and is seeking £3 million in damages and loss of earnings.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...7999250e&ei=27

MGR1 11-24-23 12:08 PM

It's all very Macbeth, but with an uglier cast.

Mike.:D

Jimbuna 11-24-23 12:21 PM

I'm not sure how successful he'll be ...going up against the 'system' and all that.


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