Originally Posted by Magnum (Post 1438723)

This is how the Feared Hunters worked and the reason why I don't use it anymore since patch 1.2. They gather around the sub last contact position and grind the place dropping millions of DC's, eventually damaging them self and sunk. Seeing 10 or more DD's doing this made me to uninstall all my AI improvement mods and playing only with stock game. Hope that your work will be very different.. actually I'm convinced.

Originally Posted by Stormfly (Post 1438743)

they throw a hell of DC carpets now, makes it much more scary now :o

Originally Posted by Stormfly (Post 1438743)

they throw a hell of DC carpets now, makes it much more scary now :o

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 1438744)

I did notice a bug with the ship's AI though. Once they detect their first contact they are always in alert state even if the contact doesn't exist anymore or is gone (out of range of it's sensors). I'll have to fix that.

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 1438741)

I rewrote >75% of the ship's AI so they will act differently :yep: It is an entirely new and different AI than stock or any other AI mod.

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 1438679)

I've never seen a carrier in game yet so I have to ask some questions. If you disable the mod, does this happen? What usually happens when a carrier is first hit with a torpedo, does it do something special?

Originally Posted by John Channing (Post 1438997)

Nice!

This leads me to a question/request.

Is it possible to put a time delay on the searchlights. It has always been the case that the nano-second after the torp hits all the lights come on. It's like the lookouts are sitting there with their hands on the switches. I know it's a small thing, but the small things add up to some really big things.

Oh.. and I haven't tried this mod yet, but if you have actually already done this.... please disregard.

:D

JCC

Originally Posted by John Channing (Post 1438997)

Nice!

This leads me to a question/request.

Is it possible to put a time delay on the searchlights. It has always been the case that the nano-second after the torp hits all the lights come on. It's like the lookouts are sitting there with their hands on the switches. I know it's a small thing, but the small things add up to some really big things.

Oh.. and I haven't tried this mod yet, but if you have actually already done this.... please disregard.

:D

JCC

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 1439031)

not sure anything can be done about the spotlights. The devs didn't give any way to control them in the ship's AI routines.

Next thing I'm going to add to the ship's AI is the destroyer that sits there waiting for you to resurface. My question is how often did a destroyer just sit around waiting for the sub to resurface? How many were left to do this duty when the others returned back to the convoy? How long did they sit there and wait? Did they move position to keep in constant 'contact' with the sub or did they just park in one spot and wait? How far back did they sit from the sub waiting?

Is the AI too smart? Or is the AI not smart enough? Do they find you to easily? Is it impossible to 'lose' them once detected or does it seem about right or ??

Originally Posted by DICY (Post 1439055)

I played the PQ-17 mission twice last night with somewhat mixed results. My first try was the one I had issues with, though I'm not sure how big these issues actually are.

The first thing I noticed was that as the escorts approached they appeared to be getting attacked by something, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out by what. It looked like they were dropping Depth Charges at first, but they didn't change course at all and some of the explosions were going off in front of the ships. I couldn't see anything around that might be attacking them (planes/ships), and these certainly weren't explosions caused by another U-Boat. I doubt this has anything to do with your AI but I didn't want to leave it unmentioned.

The second thing I saw that I think is a bit more of a problem; I got in front of the escorts, went to about 140 meters to let them pass over me, than went to periscope depth when they were past me. However, when I attacked the merchants none of the escorts seemed to care at all. No course change, nobody coming to look for me, they just kept on going as if nothing had happened. I didn't expect them to be able to find me, but I at least would have thought they'd try. I was able to attack the convoy two more times without any response from the escorts, at which point I surfaced and the mission ended. Again, I don't know if this is actually an AI issue or has more to do with the mission script.

On the second playthrough I wanted to be sure the escorts knew I was there so when they were passing by me I kicked the engines on to make sure they heard me. The result was pretty devastating. I had 7 or 8 ships above me, all taking turns dropping depth charges, and was able to spot the director, sitting there calmly with his light fixed on my position. It took them about 20 minutes to sink me (at 160 meters the whole time), and I don't see any way that I could have gotten away from them. Having given them a much better fix on my location initially than you ever would under normal circumstances it seems about right that I wouldn't have been able to survive the encounter.

Seems like a huge improvement so far, they're very aggressive and effective at pinning you down. My only real concern is with their apparent disinterest at the convoy getting attacked the first time around.