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Working on it though... :hmmm: Wish this had been done earlier in the year. I am going to need new rings or maybe a new scope because this won't adjust any further in the direction I need it to. |
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Anyway, there are no iron sights on my gun...sadly. A breakaway mount wouldn't do me any real good. And I never knew that about black powder... Learn something every day... :arrgh!: |
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Low budget solution...but it worked. As far as a second option on my Savage, I don't think you can get iron sight mounts for it. It didn't come with anything but two weaver mounts (had to replace one) on the top. |
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The movie was ZULU DAWN. I guess there was a book, 'Washing of the Spears' about the subject. Good movie, never read the book. |
Time to "reload"(pun intended) this thread.
I'd like to talk about a topic that many seem to have a great misunderstanding of......optics and what exactly they do and a bit about there development history.I not afraid to say that I am no expert on the topic but I know enough to spot a complete layman. The other day I over heard a conversation in a gun store between two patrons they where discussing WWII era rifle scopes and what they said just made me cringe.They where discussing how basically useless WWII scopes where.:har: Oh how incorrect.Now granted a modern high quality rifle scope is going to be a much better bit of kit than a 70+ year design is but to say that they where useless is just baffling.I can not even comprehend where someone could come up with this assessment.Certainly not from reading the widely available information out there from various legitimate sources that can confirm that rifle optics of the era where in fact very useful tools and when combined with a good rifle and a good shooter where deadly accurate. The Soviet PU scope for example was very innovative it was the first scope where windage and zero could be adjusted without hand tools very useful indeed in the field where a quick adjustment might mean the difference between seeing the next sun rise and becoming a tally mark for an enemy sniper. So far as my amateur understanding allows by and large WWII era scopes where very effective in their intended role.The German and Soviet design scopes being the best.Granted they fogged up in certain conditions easily solved by a quick wipe down and you still have to deal with this issue with a modern scope.I also know that rifle optics have been is use in some form at least since the 18th century and a British general even was killed by an American using a rifled musket with a crude scope. So far as I can tell the most notable leaps towards modern optics where made during the late 19th and early 20th century mainly due the advent of smokeless powder(which allowed for greater ranges) and the popularity of big game hunting (wealthy men able to afford expensive optics). In WWI they simply took scopes designed for the hunting market and mounted them on rifles.Some like the Germans and the Russians understood the value of a sniper well enough to develop during the inter war years optics designed specifically for the conditions and type of shooting that a sniper par takes in. I think people get confused perhaps because they have seen or know someone who has a WWII ear rifle say a 91/30 and they purchased a PU either an original one or a reproduction.These usually are not very accurate but this does represent how a from the factory 91/30 with a PU scope would have performed.There are poorly smithed 91/30s out there that where cobbled together with PU scope which are utter crap and not comparable to an original sniper 91/30(which I bet goes for over $1,000 these days). Anyway here is a fairly interesting read about Soviet WWII era scopes Also talks a little about a Czech version of the PU http://www.mosinnagant.net/sniper%20...nipertext1.asp A while back I read a very extensive article on the web about WWII era German scopes wish I jotted down the address I searched a bit and can't seem to find the same page. |
Pretty good!: The Russians are the one to check in with on sniping as they took it up to the highest level in terms of productivity. Approximately 12000 confirmed kills during WWII of which the top 20 snipers accounted for 7500!, as with air or Uboat aces, the top aces do most of the tallying! The top sniper of the war was Finnish Lt. Simo Häyhä with 542 confirmed kills in the Winter War, likely with a captured Soviet weapon. Additionally in the same winter battle of Koläa, the Finn, nicknamed 'White Death', used a Suomi kP/31 sub-machine gun and accounted for another 200 kills bringing his total to 742 in 100 day period; He died in 2002 at the ripe age of 97! Vasily Zaytsef of Enemy at the Gate fame was well down the list with a commendable 242. One of several proficient and highly decorated women snipers, Ludmilla Paulichenko, accounted for 309 confirmed kills with 36 of those being enemy snipers! The 1891/30 upgraded WWI Mosin was the weapon of choice with a extended bolt to avoid the simple rock solid sight mount for either the 3.5x power PU and later PE/Pem 4.0x power scope, both modeled on the superior Zeiss German scope and utilizing the German three bar reticule optic. This weapon remained in use until replaced by the Druganov in 1963, was used in Viet Nam and is still used/seen in the African conflicts today 100+ years later!!. :salute:
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According to what I found the first purpose built optics where made by some man named Morgan James and another man named William Malcolm made a mass produced scope starting in 1855.Even fro that date that is still nearly 100 years of development time between then and WWII. All I know is if I was around in WWII I would not want an enemy sniper or marksman aiming his "useless" optics at my big fat noggin as I am confident barring some extremely good luck that said shooter would have no problem blowing my brains out or my heart or lungs if his(or her) aim was off a scootabit. I cant imagine what those WWII era snipers could do with a modern sniper like say an M24 with .338 Lapua bet the ratios would be at least 30% higher. |
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I'll get my coat :shifty: |
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"That Hamms bottle should die lads make is so he needs a better drink it will do him some good." I like everyone honestly if we all acted the same life would be pretty boring. |
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In cans too if this photo of Aktungbby was not Photoshopped.Being a refined man I doubt that Aktungbby would ever stoop to the low of drinking beer from a can.
I kid :sunny: http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/...b.jpg~original Aktungbby circa 1973? http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/...8.jpg~original |
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