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mapuc 03-02-22 10:58 AM

I somehow remember what Platapus told me about the American nuclear doctrine-How much power the President really have when it comes to order a nuke strike.

How is it in Russia ?

Markus

Andreas86 03-02-22 11:32 AM

Media has been hyping up this 40 mile column for 3 days now. Yet little happens, for all its expected firepower. This whole campaign is a disaster for Russia. They are completely bogged down, and obviously very averse to battle. Report keep pouring in about captured russian equipment and destroyed columns. I hope the Ukrainians kick them well out.


Also, it is time for the worlds biggest enforcer of "freedom and democracy" around the world to get off its ass and help. Instead of laying the middle east in rubble you could perhaps do something useful and send a carrier strike group or two up in the Black Sea to keep the russian air force tied up.

Jeff-Groves 03-02-22 11:36 AM

Turkey has closed off the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits to warships from any country

I'm pretty sure We couldn't sent Aircraft carriers camouflaged as party cruise line ships with the Crew dressed as pirates through.

Skybird 03-02-22 11:36 AM

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Skybird 03-02-22 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2796593)
I somehow remember what Platapus told me about the American nuclear doctrine-How much power the President really have when it comes to order a nuke strike.

How is it in Russia ?

Markus

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mapuc 03-02-22 11:46 AM

^Thank you. Must have missed it when I read it first time.

Markus

Rockstar 03-02-22 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Andreas86 (Post 2796595)
Media has been hyping up this 40 mile column for 3 days now. Yet little happens, for all its expected firepower. This whole campaign is a disaster for Russia. They are completely bogged down, and obviously very averse to battle. Report keep pouring in about captured russian equipment and destroyed columns. I hope the Ukrainians kick them well out.


Also, it is time for the worlds biggest enforcer of "freedom and democracy" around the world to get off its ass and help. Instead of laying the middle east in rubble you could perhaps do something useful and send a carrier strike group or two up in the Black Sea to keep the russian air force tied up.

There is only so much anyone can do without starting world war three. Even with all his supposed superior wiz bang super duper gadgetry everyone has been chirping like hens about. Putin knows he’d have is ass handed to him in the blink of an eye if we got involved militarily. Like I said before it would take less time to knock out those columns than it takes to fly A10’s to target. That’s why he keeps bringing up the nuclear option.

We send in the arms and logistics but Ukraine needs to be the ones to pull the trigger. It will be much better in the long run for Ukraine on the world stage if Ukraine puts in the work and can pull this off. They would have well deserved “bragging rights”

Aktungbby 03-02-22 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2796518)
AHEM! Isn't that pißed off?:yep: but at least the 'worm begins turning' toward substantial allegations of war crimes. The primary umbrella charge will be waging aggreßive warfare with subsidiary human shield abuses and murder of non-military citizens. Ideally I'd like to see him not sleeping in his own dacha 'cause he's on the run, or in his cell in the Hague ... as happened to Serbia's Slobodan Milošević.

UPDATE AS OF THIS AM:The
International Criminal Court has opened an investigation into possible war crimes in Ukraine, a first step in a process that potentially could lead to Russian president Putin and other Kremlin leaders being charged at the Hague. ICC Prosecutor Karim Khan, a British attorney, said this week that he'd start an investigation "as rapidly as possible" encompassing violations already compiled as well as any new alleged crimes falling with in the jurisdiction of his office that are committed by any party on any part of Ukraine. Kremlin spokesman, Dmitry Peskov said Russia categorically rejects the investigation, noting that Russia isn't part of the ICC....:Kaleun_Salute::o Ukraine has been seeking an ICC investigation since the 2014 Crimea annexation. The prosecutor office, strapped by othe cases and the Pandemic has put that request on hold. Both the US and Russia have had erratic relation with the ICC. Neither country wants the ICC prosecuting its citizens...over violations in Afghanistan. :timeout: Both nations were signatories to the Rome Statute, signed by Presdent Clinton, giving The ICC jurisdiction: George W. Bush later withdrew over prosecution issues involving American personnel in Iran; and Russia withdrew after the Crimean annexation in 2016 after the ICC classified the annexation as 'an occupation':hmmm: Bottom line: this hairsplitting will take years; but it's all we got as tribunals go.

Jeff-Groves 03-02-22 11:59 AM

They don't have all the Super Duper gizmo's they've claimed to have for years.
A few Stealth Planes they obviously DON'T have could have done a lot of damage right off the bat! As to detecting OUR Stealth AirCraft? Doubt they can do what they say and have claimed for years now.
If one could detect them as easily as some believe? Why fall back to a hint of Nuclear Weaponry?
:hmmm:

Catfish 03-02-22 12:00 PM

The quintessence of the article i posted is that Putin will not accept this proposal, giving the West time to support Kyev.
They did not listen properly, "if the west gets in my way there will be a war like never seen before".

What i fear is he might drop an atomic bomb on Kyev. Which would explain the halting military in appropriate distance.

The rest of the world should think about how to answer this. Ukraine is not a Nato member.

Jeff-Groves 03-02-22 12:02 PM

"What i fear is he might drop an atomic bomb on Kyev. The rest of the world should think about how to answer this."

B2 Stealth Bombers escorted by F-117's.

Those going in along with a massive wave of Cruise Missiles.

Andreas86 03-02-22 12:03 PM

Seeing as Steven Seagal is a friend of Putins, couldn't the US persuade him to pay Putin a visit and "Steven Seagal" his ass?


Could perhaps be the plot for a $200 budget movie later.

Jeff-Groves 03-02-22 12:06 PM

Send in Chuck Norris!
:o

Andreas86 03-02-22 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2796606)
"What i fear is he might drop an atomic bomb on Kyev. The rest of the world should think about how to answer this."

B2 Stealth Bombers escorted by F-117's.

Those going in along with a massive wave of Cruise Missiles.


Seeing as the B-2s radar cross-section is smaller than that of a F-117, a B-2 would stand a better chance on its own. Rather than dragging a tail of noise behind.

Andreas86 03-02-22 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2796608)
Send in Chuck Norris!
:o

And Lee Marvin! :up: That might of course be difficult..


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