Editing the 'Barent's Sea Loiter' mission ...?

[tAKticool47]

Hi everyone...

Haven't been here in a while, but having been thrown in the garbage by my ex right after Thanksgiving, and therefore not having a whole lot of stuff to do, I've been playing DW more for the first time in a few years.

One mission that always was fun and frustrating at the same time was the Barent's Sea Loiter ... basically, you get a 688i and have to transit an hour or two in order to attack a Soviet SAG consisting of their carrier Kusnetsov, ASuW DDG Sovernmenny, and a virtually-unharmable Kirov variant. Sometimes there is also a pesky Akula, sometimes not.

I had never once been able to destroy them all. It's ridiculous how it takes 20 missile hits or several torpedoes to sink the Kuz & the Kirovs are basically The Starship Enterprise ... and I know the mission says just "damage", but I consider it necessary to sink them all. As it happens, I did just actually sink all 3 (but that particular mission, there was no Akula , so I both did and did not beat it... )

But you can't edit this mission for some reason? In the Mission Editor, it doesn't show up whatsoever... in the game files, there is a Barents_Sea file but it has a different extension than the other missions. I tried copying and pasting and renaming it to the other extension, didn't work. I also will not that despite the mission NAME being "Barent's Sea Loiter" in the game, the word "loiter" doesn't appear in the filename or anywhere else within the files/folders {near as I can tell} ...

Is there some reason you can play it but not edit it and/or is there some hack to getting it open? I just wanted to have a little fun, see if it was any easier with a different class of sub and/or editing the Russian vessels a little.

And again- two main points I wanted to raise ... the Kirovs are like literally The Terminators ... their Shipwreck missiles are unstoppable messengers of death, and their own AAW missiles are perfect. There are times I fire torpedoes that just won't hit the damn ship. It's like when you press two sides of the same pole of a magnet together and it just repels , yep, torpedo just magically repels off the Kirovs and nope, no sink for you!

And the Virginias are way too slow. Jive Turkey/Sub Brief all but confirmed it without saying it... their reactors put out waaaaaay more power than a 688 while being only slightly bigger ... and *almost* as much as a Seawolf while being smaller ... this 28kt BS , more like 38-40... I think it's pretty much confirmed that the Seawolf hit over 40 on trials, there is a doc on YouTube where the first CO actually said that the design engineers and scientists were amazed that it went faster than their wildest expectations. Well, the Virginia has a newer, more efficient reactor and it's smaller. 28 is like a dodo bird.

Anyway thanks for the help!

[Stewy1]

Hey Tak,

Sorry you've got some stuff going on, man. I don't think I have an answer - but the only close thread I could think of was this one...

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...light=password

Hope this helps a bit,
Stew

[tAKticool47]

Thanks very, very much brother, I will give that a read & try. Very much appreciate it, thank you again Sir.

[27VMB]

To edit the vanilla missions, you need to change the file format from .ms to .mu. Then, you will be able to edit the mission.

[rentacow]

The mission file is called:

SSM01.ms

It's located in:

Dangerous Waters\Scenario\

And its contents for reference:

 

VERSION 3
OWNALLIANCE 0
DIFFICULTY 3
TOTALNUMSIDES 2
NUMDRIVEABLES 1
MONTH 8
WORLDGRID 2
LATLONG 67.679550 38.815659
;
SEASTATE 3
MDR 0 0 0
BOTTOMTYPE 0
TIMEOFDAY 6
WEATHER 2
CLOUDHEIGHT 4500
SSP 0
DESCRIPTION
BEGINTEXT
Loiter in the Barents Sea and engage targets of opportunity.
ENDTEXT
MISSIONTITLE
BEGINTEXT
Barents Sea Loiter
ENDTEXT




ENTITY 57 SUBENTITY
HULLID 2
ALLIANCE 0
POS 629121.312500 759631.750000 -153
POINTS 1000
COURSE 0
SPEED 5
PROB 100
DRIVEABLE 1
PLAYERTASKING
BEGINTEXT
<R>

======================<R>

Seek out and engage Russian naval combatants.  Relationships with the new Russian Federation have continued to deteriorate.  Download the radio broadcast periodically for your orders and updated intelligence data on Russian vessel movement.<R>

======================<R>
ENDTEXT
STREAMTA 1
UNIQUENAME "USS Cheyenne"
COMMSINTERVAL 0.000000
TACTIC RANDOMBOX
BOX 604450.000000 777888.625000 653792.812500 741374.875000
AIRLOADOUT -1
AIRCRAFT 1721 1 Alert5 0 : Alert15 1 : 0 Alert30 0 : 
END

ENTITY 423 SURFENTITY
HULLID 5
ALLIANCE 1
POS 664313.000000 647828.812500 0
POINTS 3000
COURSE 313
SPEED 20
PROB 100
UNIQUENAME "CVG 63"
TACTIC PIMWAYPOINTS
WAYPOINT 299285.750000 989705.937500 0 20 -1 0.000000
WAYPOINT 148162.562500 1040080.375000 0 25 -1 0.000000
AIRLOADOUT 26
AIRCRAFT 592 12 
AIRCRAFT 603 14 
AIRCRAFT 604 3 
END

ENTITY 427 SURFENTITY
HULLID 6
ALLIANCE 1
POS 651348.812500 650051.625000 0
POINTS 750
COURSE 313
SPEED 10
PROB 100
UNIQUENAME "CGN 99"
FORMATIONLEADERHULLID 5
AIRLOADOUT 27
AIRCRAFT 603 3 
END

ENTITY 451 SURFENTITY
HULLID 7
ALLIANCE 1
POS 660053.125000 658385.625000 0
POINTS 750
COURSE 312
SPEED 10
PROB 100
UNIQUENAME "DDG 778"
FORMATIONLEADERHULLID 5
AIRLOADOUT 31
AIRCRAFT 603 1 
END

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HULLID 9
ALLIANCE 1
POS 652274.937500 666348.875000 -180
POINTS 750
COURSE 313
SPEED 30
PROB 75
UNIQUENAME "SSN 267"
COMMSINTERVAL 0.000000
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WAYPOINT 303730.562500 1008966.812500 -120 5 -1 0.000000
AIRLOADOUT -1
END

GOAL 538191.625000 844511.250000 0.000000
BEGIN
GOALNAME "Radio Msg 1"
GOALID 1
PARENTGOALID -1
GOALTYPE 3
TRIGGERTYPE 1
STARTTIME 22200
ENDTIME 36000
POINTS 100
MAXSPEED -1
MINDEPTH -1.000000
MAXDEPTH -1.000000
RETURNTOBASE 0
DESCRIPTION
BEGINTEXT
Radio msg on detection of Russian SAG
ENDTEXT
MESSAGETYPEID 0
BEGINTEXT
<R>

======================<R>

<R>

FROM: COMMANDER US NAVAL FORCES EUROPE (COMUSNAVEUR)<R>

TO:	 USS CHEYENNE (SSN 773)<R>

INFO: COMMANDER US ATLANTIC FLEET<R>

<R>

<R>

SUBJ: RUSSIAN INTERDICTION<R>

<R>

<R>

1. SITUATION.<R>

A. THE RISE OF THE EUROPEAN UNION HAS BEGUN TO SQUEEZE RUSSIA ECONOMICALLY. RUSSIA IS PURSUING BOTH
 DIPLOMATIC AND MILITARY PATHS TOWARD SOLUTION TO THEIR PROBLEM.<R>

B. WHILE NEGOTIATIONS ARE CONTINUING IN THE UN, RUSSIA HAS BEEN TRYING TO ENFORCE A UNILATERALLY-DECLARED EMBARGO AGAINST SHIPPING FROM THE US TO WESTERN EUROPE (WHICH RUSSIA SEES AS THE ROOT
 OF THEIR PROBLEM.) NO ONE IS WILLING TO COMMIT TO FULL HOSTILITIES IN HOPES THAT A DIPLOMATIC SOLUTION CAN BE FOUND. FOR THE RECENT PAST THERE HAS BEEN "LIMITED" WAR IN THE NORTH ATLANTIC.<R>

C. NOW THE US HAS DECIDED TO TRY TO STOP THE RUSSIAN EMBARGO EFFOR
T. THEY HAVE DISPATCHED A CARRIER STRIKE GROUP (CSG) TO INTERDICT RUSSIAN FORCES HEADED FOR THE ATLANTIC.<R>

D. A RUSSIAN SURFACE ACTION GROUP HAS LEFT THE WHITE SEA AND APPEARS HEADED FOR THE NORTH CAPE TO ENGAGE US CSG. ALTHOUGH NOT CONFIRMED, THERE MAY BE 
AN AKULA SUBMARINE IN DIRECT SUPPORT OF THE RUSSIAN SAG.<R>

<R>

<R>

2. MISSION.<R>

INTERCEPT AND ENGAGE THE RUSSIAN SAG.<R>

<R>

<R>

3. EXECUTION.<R>

A. SINK AS MANY SHIPS AS POSSIBLE, BUT IT IS DESIRED THAT YOU AT LEAST DAMAGE ALL THE UNITS.<R>

B. AT 0500/5 LOCAL TODAY, THE RUSSIAN SA
G WAS CENTERED AT<R>

68-16N1/042-08E4. THE SAG WAS HEADING NORTHWEST AT 20 KNOTS<R>

C. RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.<R>

(1) RUSSIAN FORCES ARE DECLARED HOSTILE. YOU ARE AUTHORIZED TO ENGAGE.<R>

(2) YOU ARE NOT TO ENGAGE OTHER FORCES UNLESS (1) THEY SHOOT AT YOU (HOSTILE ACT) O
R (2) YOU HAVE UNAMBIGUOUS INDICATION THEY ARE PREPARING TO SHOOT AT YOU (HOSTILE INTENT.)<R>

<R>

<R>

4. COMMAND AND CONTROL.<R>

A. ALL REPORTS TO COMUSNAVEUR.<R>

B. COPY THE SUBMARINE BROADCAST AT LEAST EVERY TWELVE HOURS.<R>
BT<R>

ENDTEXT
END
GOAL 567442.937500 842527.562500 0.000000
BEGIN
GOALNAME "Mission Complete"
GOALID 2
PARENTGOALID -1
GOALTYPE 3
TRIGGERTYPE 2
STARTTIME 0
ENDTIME 0
POINTS 300
MAXSPEED -1
MINDEPTH -1.000000
MAXDEPTH -1.000000
RETURNTOBASE 0
CRITICAL 1
AUDIO E_Misc_06
SUCCESSMESSAGE
BEGINTEXT
Mission accomplished.  All SAG units damaged.
ENDTEXT
FAILUREMESSAGE
BEGINTEXT
Mission not accomplished. All SAG units were not damaged to at least 25%.
ENDTEXT
DESCRIPTION
BEGINTEXT
Inflict at least 25% damage to all SAG units.
ENDTEXT
GOALDOCTRINE
BEGINTEXT
IF  ( CompletedGoal -1  3 ) and<R>

 ( CompletedGoal -1  4 ) and<R>

 ( CompletedGoal -1  5 ) then<R>

GoalTriggered  <R>

 ENDIF
ENDTEXT
MESSAGETYPEID 1
BEGINTEXT
<R>

======================<R>

<R>

FROM: COMUSNAVEUR<R>

TO:	 USS CHEYENNE (SSN 773)<R>

INFO: COMMANDER US ATLANTIC FLEET<R>

<R>

<R>

SUBJ: RUSSIAN INTERDICTION<R>

<R>

<R>

FUSED INTEL INDICATES ALL RUSSIAN SAG UNITS HAVE BEEN DAMAGED AND NO LONGER POSE A SIGNIFICANT THREAT TO US CSG. BZ. MISSION COMPLETE RETURN TO PORT.<R>
BT<R>

ENDTEXT
END
GOAL 670445.437500 666682.750000 0.000000
BEGIN
GOALNAME "Attack DDG 778"
GOALID 3
PARENTGOALID -1
GOALTYPE 2
DAMAGE 25
TRIGGERTYPE 1
STARTTIME 0
ENDTIME 0
POINTS 0
MAXSPEED -1
MINDEPTH -1.000000
MAXDEPTH -1.000000
RETURNTOBASE 0
AUDIO E_Misc_19
ATTACHEDTARGETOBJ 7
DESCRIPTION
BEGINTEXT
Inflict at least 25% damage.
ENDTEXT
MESSAGETYPEID 1
BEGINTEXT
<R>

======================<R>

Sovremennyy class DDG-778 damaged.<R>

======================<R>

ENDTEXT
END
GOAL 649598.187500 640161.125000 0.000000
BEGIN
GOALNAME "Attack CGN 99"
GOALID 4
PARENTGOALID -1
GOALTYPE 2
DAMAGE 25
TRIGGERTYPE 1
STARTTIME 0
ENDTIME 0
POINTS 0
MAXSPEED -1
MINDEPTH -1.000000
MAXDEPTH -1.000000
RETURNTOBASE 0
AUDIO E_Misc_19
ATTACHEDTARGETOBJ 6
DESCRIPTION
BEGINTEXT
Inflict at least 25% damage.
ENDTEXT
MESSAGETYPEID 1
BEGINTEXT
<R>

======================<R>

Kirov class CGN-99 damaged.<R>

======================<R>
ENDTEXT
END
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BEGIN
GOALNAME "Attack CVG 63"
GOALID 5
PARENTGOALID -1
GOALTYPE 2
DAMAGE 25
TRIGGERTYPE 1
STARTTIME 0
ENDTIME 0
POINTS 0
MAXSPEED -1
MINDEPTH -1.000000
MAXDEPTH -1.000000
RETURNTOBASE 0
AUDIO E_Misc_19
ATTACHEDTARGETOBJ 5
DESCRIPTION
BEGINTEXT
Inflict at least 25% damage.
ENDTEXT
MESSAGETYPEID 1
BEGINTEXT
<R>

======================<R>

Kuznetsov class CVG 63 damaged.<R>

======================<R>

ENDTEXT
END
GOAL 660330.250000 677168.062500 0.000000
BEGIN
GOALNAME "Attack SSN 267"
GOALID 6
PARENTGOALID -1
GOALTYPE 2
DAMAGE 5
TRIGGERTYPE 1
STARTTIME 0
ENDTIME 0
POINTS 0
MAXSPEED -1
MINDEPTH -1.000000
MAXDEPTH -1.000000
RETURNTOBASE 0
ATTACHEDTARGETOBJ 9
DESCRIPTION
BEGINTEXT
Attack SSN 267 and inflict some damage.
ENDTEXT
MESSAGETYPEID 0
BEGINTEXT

ENDTEXT
END
GOAL 596555.187500 842527.562500 0.000000
BEGIN
GOALNAME "Bonus points"
GOALID 7
PARENTGOALID -1
GOALTYPE 3
TRIGGERTYPE 2
STARTTIME 0
ENDTIME 0
POINTS 100
MAXSPEED -1
MINDEPTH -1.000000
MAXDEPTH -1.000000
RETURNTOBASE 0
AUDIO E_Misc_19
SUCCESSMESSAGE
BEGINTEXT
Bonus points acquired.
ENDTEXT
FAILUREMESSAGE
BEGINTEXT
Bonus points not acquired.
ENDTEXT
DESCRIPTION
BEGINTEXT
Akula attacked and damaged.
ENDTEXT
GOALDOCTRINE
BEGINTEXT
IF  ( CompletedGoal -1  6 ) then<R>

GoalTriggered  <R>

 ENDIF
ENDTEXT
MESSAGETYPEID 1
BEGINTEXT
<R>

======================<R>

Bonus points acquired.<R>

======================<R>
ENDTEXT
END
TEXTLABEL 756092.062500 330693.906250
BEGINTEXT
RUSSIAN FEDERATION
ENDTEXT
COLOR RGB(0,0,0)
END

TEXTLABEL 65106.171875 568913.812500
BEGINTEXT
FINLAND
ENDTEXT
COLOR RGB(0,0,0)
END

TEXTLABEL 84341.312500 882594.750000
BEGINTEXT
NORWAY
ENDTEXT
COLOR RGB(0,0,0)
END

TEXTLABEL 593333.062500 922544.625000
BEGINTEXT
Barents Sea
ENDTEXT
COLOR RGB(255,255,255)
END

TEXTLABEL 688029.187500 480136.218750
BEGINTEXT
White Sea
ENDTEXT
COLOR RGB(255,255,255)
END

TEXTLABEL 614047.812500 200486.671875
BEGINTEXT
Archangel
ENDTEXT
COLOR RGB(255,0,0)
END

TEXTLABEL 366950.093750 699121.062500
BEGINTEXT
Murmansk
ENDTEXT
COLOR RGB(255,0,0)
END

FORMATION "Russian SAG" 5

Remember to change the file extension as mentioned above. No password is needed to edit.