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04-01-24, 10:57 PM | #1 |
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Now in patrol #17 in Dec 1941. And get an assigned area to patrol as DT81. That makes no sense. It lies way south off the west coast of Africa. We all know the actual war demand action is between England and Scandinavia and on the British west coast to sink British shipping to the UK. So, are these area assignments just randomly generated by the program with no rational underlying their position? If that is the case, we may as well ignore them and hunt on our own...which makes this more of an arcade game than anything near resembling realism. I know it's a game, but then so is Pong. Aren't we supposed to be better? I was earlier going to ask if anyone could answer if Unterseeboot Command wanted sub commanders to head directly to assigned quadrants and ignore targets enroute, or take advantage of targets as they emerged. But maybe that is just too subtle for the game. Finally is there a group working on updating LSH3? Or is this it? -=Archive1=- |
04-02-24, 01:51 AM | #2 |
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There could be a historical basis to it, depends on what Flotilla you're in. In GWX the grids are random, but from a selection of about five which the game has to choose from for a given month and year, which are usually historically plausible for a specific Flotilla. I imagine LSH3 is similar. Whilst the main area of the U-boat war was in the North Atlantic they still operated far and wide: From the Arctic Ocean, Baltic, Caribbean, Mediterranean, Black Sea, South Atlantic, Indian Ocean and even off the coasts of Australia and New Zealand. The more far away places were for the larger Type IX boats. You'll need to be economical with your fuel during transit.
Here's an example of an actual BDU KTB from WW2 showing each U-boat's position for a given day for a selected period: https://www.uboatarchive.net/BDU/BDUKTB30312A.htm The lack of proper objectives has always a limitation of SH3. In reality the U-boats were constantly micro-managed by BDU on a daily basis. One thing I like to do is use a random number generator on a separate device (laptop in my case) to help choose what grids I need to patrol next. I won't go into all the details about it but it's a nice way of simulating receiving new orders by being a little creative. Engaging targets en route to an objective was typical and expected, though there were some occasions when they had orders not to, but those were quite rare and usually limited to special assignments. Someone from the LSH3 team would have to answer the last question. |
04-05-24, 12:10 AM | #3 |
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Superb answer. And, actually, pretty much what I thought. I generally ignore the assigned quadrants and head for what I historically believe was the most rewarding quadrant with some idea of where the heavy-use lines had to be. And sometimes, feeling like taking a chance, I head for some dangerous, but good target...like a harbor. Dangerous that but gets the juices flowing. And, yes, I play at a very high level of 'reality' - 'course that's not really 'real' since we all go to bed at night heading for a peaceful day, but you know what I mean. Thanks, -=Archive=- |
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04-23-24, 09:59 AM | #5 |
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Indeed, that's where U-505, now in Chicago, got hunted down and captured!
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04-23-24, 01:20 PM | #6 |
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Yep, and a highly decorated ace, Wolfgang Luth, had great success off of the west/south African coasts.
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05-09-24, 12:49 AM | #7 |
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pancoast and aktungbby:
Yes, yes I understand all that, but my assignment was in 1941...way down there in Africa? C'mon, guys. British shipping up north into and away from the Isles was much more critical to destroy in the early years. Your comments are obviously correct, much later in the war, but not at the onset. I think we must accept that patrol assignments in the game are randomly assigned with no focus on accuracy and generally can be ignored without any negatives. Maybe you have some historical reference that makes my position invalid (?) I know of no subs assigned deep into the coast of Africa in 1941, but perhaps you have a reference that corrects me. BTW - I grew up in Chicago and am very well aware of U-505 and visited it often. -=Archive1=- |
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